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Tuesday, March 11, 2008


You wanna know what somebody really believes? Follow the money.

At first blush, Steve Andrews & Co. over at ASPO-USA seem to be taking the position that peak oil is an imminent threat. They say things like:
But the preponderance of current analysis suggests this event [peak oil] is highly likely within the next eight years.
So is it so highly likely that Steve & Co. are willing to bet $1 million dollars on that outcome? Apparently not:
We are prepared to bet Saleri, or anyone else for that matter, $1,000,000 that world oil production will peak before 2030.
2030. LOL. Steve, you seem to be having a little identity crisis here. People who talk about oil peaking around 2030 are known as denialists and cornucopians.
by JD


At Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 12:39:00 AM PDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what they would wager on that 8 year window......

I don't know about anybody else, but things seem a little bleak right now.
I could definitely use some good news on some current advance, or some hope for the future. I don't consider myself a doomer I personally think the ideas expressed of the variety create apathy and helplessness paradoxically bringing out the worst in challenging times, however, It is hard at the moment to get my bearings on the state of where things are going in the world, or at the least my locale (US).

At Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 3:29:00 AM PDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read "The Black Swan" anonymous. There are a lot of things out there that could get us, but we aren't good enough predictors to "pick one" and worry about it particularly.

With a few million people worrying about a few thousand things, some may be lucky (unlucky) enough to be right, but it won't necessarily be because they were smart. With a few thousand worries in human culture (across the internets) someone is bound to be right.

Look at the peak oil folks in the last few years ... they kind of missed the housing bubble and the credit crisis, didn't they?

(or if they saw them, they saw them in terms of oil, which proved to be wrong)

The trick, for all of us, is to separate the real daily risks we face from the longer and more obscure ones. This old Time magazine article is great for that.

At Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 9:33:00 PM PDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok, so I found some good news.

At Saturday, March 15, 2008 at 2:12:00 PM PDT, Blogger juan said...

Bad news - There is a real global financial-economic crisis in process, a crisis that very well may put end to much of what you've come to believe and believe in.

Good news - This same crisis has the potential to develop (and/or re-awake) social movements able to take us beyond the barbarisms of the last 100 years, to move us at least somewhat closer to a system based on use rather than profit, at least somewhat closer to becoming human.

It is worth recalling that history does not just happen but is made and made by all - everyone makes history and we are entering a moment when people must become conscious of this, their real responsibility to the future.


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